Sunday, July 21, 2024

UDLCO dyadic public: Did our Vedic seers reject two dimensional academia driven by scribing? Commentary on (H P E) Speak A Volume But Never Scribe. "शतवारं वदन्तु न लिखन्तु " by Dr Neloy Sinha

UDLCO summary:


Dr Neloy Sinha's evocative prose below stimulates further reflections on our current academic two dimensional flat lands that are apparently our only source of learning by experientially observing and then mining and plucking local and global event data followed by it's slow system 2 processing through a cycle of reflection, conceptualization and experimentation. Is this just an Eastern construct that historical imperialist globalisation has forced us into? Why did Eastern Vedic seers apparently reject this flat land existence and preferred to depend totally on their fast system 1 memory processing using their biological brains to exactly remember and reshare knowledge without having to store it into a tablet first (historically stone first and then electronic silicon), with all it's implications toward jeopardizing privacy and confidentiality? The entire medical education, informatics and research industry that thrives on two dimensional translation of our three dimensional existence would be eliminated in seconds, faster than any electronic storm could ever roast it if we were to follow this supposedly Vedic wisdom of Speak A Volume But Never Scribe. "शतवारं वदन्तु न लिखन्तु "

The entire discussion is also accessible from the meu Google group link here:


UDLCO glossary: around terms such as UDLCO, PaJR etc: https://userdrivenhealthcare.blogspot.com/2023/11/glossary-of-user-driven-healthcare.html?m=1



Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024, 08:37
Subject: Re: (H P E) Speak A Volume But Never Scribe. "शतवारं वदन्तु न लिखन्तु "
To: <meu_india@googlegroups.com>
Cc: IAMI_Gen <iami_gen@googlegroups.com>


Beautiful stream of consciousness prose:

Can I call it "Zen and the art of learning cycle maintenance" with apologies to RM Pirsig?

The iris in your palette appears to be an ontology web that connects, joins and binds diverse information elements from Brother Agathon of 1775 to Brother Louie of 1986!

Why do you think our Vedic seers did not want us to commit to a two dimensional 
academic platform that our current civilization is obsessed with, as academia and it's tools drives most of our lives and yet what did the Vedic seers see in rejecting it if they hadn't spiralled into another dimension where a long term memory was a given even without having to pen it or peck it into a two dimensional xy axis first?

Also shared this with the Indian association of medical informatics as their and the current medical industry's (both education and practice)'s whole existence pivots around documentation through data capture and archival (electronic medical records) and subsequent analysis (pka popularly known as health data analytics) as it's the only current AI way it knows to transcend the limitations of human memory and consequently learning ability!

regards,

rb 

On Wed, 17 Jul 2024, 07:45 Neloy Sinha, wrote:
One of my favourite nursery poem -
...And my eyes are blue
So ferry me across the water
Do, boatman do."
...    ... ...
The title aphorism is absolutely apt when it is applied on me. It happened many times in the past. I was in a faux pas because of my write first approach. I think a little and ink a lot. Those are neither cuneiform not calligraphic but a kind of indelible smear on an A4 paper, waiting to develop in a anisochromatic pattern.

In the Greek mythology the souls of the dead are ferried by Charon in exchange of a coin to cross the river Styx. A poetry by Christina Rossetti poignantly drew the request, "Ferry me across the water" by someone with a pair of blue eyes. The non kichalant Charon is hard to impress. As the poetess concludes, " Step into my ferry-boat,
                                              Be they black or blue,
                                              And for a penny in your purse
                                               I'll ferry you".

Those beautiful but saddened souls are taking their last ride. Only the ophthalmologists have the privilege to study those eyes in depth by appointment only! There lies the spectrum of colour from hazel green to turquoise blue. About 9% of Americans have hazel green eyes and the turquoise blue gene can be traced to Middle East and North Africa. Not surprisingly, at times the iris patterns strikingly mimick  that of the distant nebulae.

About four decades ago, one may not remember well about the iconic eyes of an Afgan refugee girl, which was printed on the cover of the National Geography during the Soviet- Afgan conflict in 1985. The picture was shot by an American photographer Steve Mc Curry. The girl was hailed as " First World's  Third world Mona Lisa." because of Sharbat Gula's piercing green eyes. That might be the trend and transition of beauty from the eyes of the beholder to surrender 'beauty' to be judged by the eye of the media.

We have come a along way from those yesteryear's conflicts which can be summerized as, "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly". The concept is changing to "The Great, The Bash and The Ultimate". As we want the best our mobiles are transforming to multi eyes monsters and flourishing in the competitive market. On the other hand inspite of success and prosperity the commodities like television ( better to say the Google screen) is shrinking in size alarmingly compared to that of our neighbour's. As I read some where recently that These are the prodromal symptoms of AI infestation at the societal level.

While we are busy with the airbrush to conceal the eyes of the patients in the clinical photographs to burry their identities routinely. Those are the ghosts of the patients without 'Aadhaar' (social security number). Those are the  Jane and John Dows for the sake of advancement of medical sciences.

We have continually traversed to understand and achieve the best. Once upon a time we were shepherd through the vast empty landscapes of the earth in search for the ideal promised land. Lands are shared now with minor on going conflicts. The able GPS facility displaced the shephard and embraced the Uber to reach the rendezvous base camp. From there the sherpa take over to push us to the summit through the most congested trail of the earth.

  I am not as good as the Zen Masters and suffer from different maladies of inadequacies in the pursuit of the qualities of an adequate teacher. The desired qualities were almost unobtainable since I stumbled over the "Twelve virtues of a good teacher" by Brother Agathon.  At this point I must admit that I was familiar with Brother Louie of ' Modern Talking' 

It is a fantastic article considering that it was conceptualized around 1775 AD but still maintains its relevance. The further interesting threads are the links to the psalms of the holy book, that creates an intricate web mimicking an iris. It is a long but satisfactory experience for an unaccustomed individual who is otherwise fanatically busy to keep the mandatory score of twenty in the era of T20 registrar.

With warm regards,
Neloy Sinha.



Friday, July 19, 2024

UDLCO journal club: A queer challenge to heteronormative approaches to ICT4D

Summary: Journal club driven by a global queer group along with Meta AI as another ubiquitous, unavoidable current user, once the group moderator kmcq shares it in the group.


UDLCO glossary:


UDLCO transcripts:


[18/07, 22:05] Kmcq: I literally got 2 holes in my ears through gunshot,rather than classical piercing


[18/07, 22:06] Kmcq: This one...both sides


[18/07, 22:06] : hmmm

[18/07, 22:07] Kmcq: That's the latest tech..

Few of my homies use magnetic earrings,which can be used without piercing as well.

While few like me had gunshots.

Classic piercing-missing out

[18/07, 22:08] Kmcq: Currently my bestie is trying to get one piercing on her navel and asks me to get one on my left eyebrow

[18/07, 22:09] Tech Frugal Innovator: Its foolishness

[18/07, 22:09] Kmcq: Why

[18/07, 22:11] Kmcq: During my childhood,used to have a piercing with copper..and small ring.

As I grew up,it became gunshot and etc.

And copper became gold and diamond

[18/07, 22:12] Kmcq: 

By the way, pinch on ear cartilage stimulates hippocampus and aids in memory.

Same reason why we hold ears and do situps infront of Ganesha

[19/07, 00:24] Kmcq: It's kinda like this..
Cause is strictly an inference. We do not perceive causes. We see a succession of events and ascribe cause. It’s a practical matter to try to understand what might be significant causes of an event, but even if we decide on a cause, we have not described THE cause of the event.

[19/07, 00:24] Kmcq: It’s good to infer cause, but it’s not philosophically true.

[19/07, 01:02] Kmcq: This is the ear piercing gun shot they were mentioning about by the way..

It's available on Amazon too.

Few of my mom's friends has it from where I got my ear gunshotted.

They run a nice beauty parlor enterprise

[19/07, 02:08] 

Kmcq: 


Just published


[18/07, 08:47] : I feel this, "concept of development beyond economic aspects to encompass the idea of the freedom to lead meaningful lives," is the key feature that will become a game changer!


[18/07, 08:53]: Now coming to optimising power imbalances, "transformative ICT4D initiatives have the potential to change the structural power relationships and to tackle the root causes of gender inequality to convert women's practical experiences of discrimination into an awareness of their strategic gender interests, which focus on dismantling patriarchal power structures." 👏


[18/07, 08:57] We need to not only "acknowledge and interrogate dominant binaries (male-female) and norms (masculinity, heterosexuality), but also provide tools for people to debate and examine varied forms of adverse digital incorporation and provide further support to question the very same – patriarchal, neoliberal, colonial – logics that have prevented the discipline, so far, to aim for a real societal transformation


@⁨~MR
@⁨+44 7732⁩ @⁨YC Trieste⁩ @⁨Tech Frugal Innovator⁩ @⁨NT⁩  @⁨+91 702 you may find this global study from Hyderabad interesting


[19/07, 02:33] YC Trieste: The language of this article is so complex and circular. What is a feminist and queer approach? Tldr?


[19/07, 02:33] Kmcq: That's literally title of the paper


[19/07, 02:34] Kmcq: It's basically a special issue of around 7 different articles


[19/07, 02:35] YC Trieste: But couldn't understand what it is on a quick glance


[19/07, 02:44] 

Kmcq: 

Phrasing from summary from above link shared from   ICT4D(Information and Communication Technologies for(4) Developement).


'This Special Issue contains seven contributions that, spanning across geographical, social and political contexts, immerse the reader in multiple facets of feminist and queer approaches to ICT4D. This section leverages the conceptual apparatus developed above to introduce the Special Issue papers, noting their synergies but also the unique ways in which each of them develops new, important knowledge for the field. Different parts of the conceptual apparatus are relevant to each paper, but all contribute to advancing the debate that our Call for Papers had initially invited.'

Summary.


But again,a deep dive may explain that this entire Issue is basically around a recent infamous Wagner Report.But also acknowledged that this issue doesn't aim to prescribe any specific frameworks,instead tried to assert a value through 7 papers stemming from the inherent alterity of feminist and queer theories in mainstream approaches


[19/07, 02:48] Kmcq: Basically it's just a showcase Issue which tried to demonstrate how feminist and queer approaches can be used to reconfigure the object of enquiry itself as they problematise (apparently as mentioned in the issue) heteronormativity in research data during literature review,investigate agential capabilities of Digital communities as socio technical systems and try to envision alternative futures through a process of speculative engagement with historical past

@⁨YC Trieste⁩

[19/07, 02:56] Kmcq: 

There's no globally accepted consensus on what feminity/feminism is,to have an issue on feminism.


Queers are basically human cabbages from what I understand..Maybe wrong too.

We may need another special issue on that

[19/07, 06:29] Tech Frugal Innovator: Ear piercing not a issue but other parts of the body not necessary.

[19/07, 06:34] Tech Frugal Innovator: I too have the ear ring mark. For addressing Ketu problem they advice to wear ear-ring for men too

[19/07, 07:59] QP: Human cabbages are those who exist in a persistent vegetative state.

Queers are qeer enough to perform in a manner that can make vegetables more animated

[19/07, 08:00] QP: @⁨Meta AI⁩ Who are queers as per recent human labels provided to certain group of humans. How does it derive from the English word queer?

[19/07, 08:00] Meta AI: The term "queer" has a complex history, and its meaning has evolved over time. Originally, "queer" was used as a slang term in the late 19th century to describe something or someone as "strange" or "unusual." In the early 20th century, it began to be used as a pejorative term for LGBTQ+ individuals, implying that they were "abnormal" or "deviant."

However, in the 1980s and 1990s, LGBTQ+ activists and scholars began to reclaim the term "queer" as a positive and empowering label. They embraced its ambiguity and fluidity, using it to describe a range of identities and experiences that didn't fit into traditional binary categories like "gay" or "straight," "male" or "female."

Today, "queer" is often used as an umbrella term to encompass a diverse range of identities, including but not limited to:

- Lesbian
- Gay
- Bisexual
- Transgender
- Genderqueer
- Non-binary
- Pansexual
- Asexual
- Two-Spirit
- Intersex

The term "queer" derives from the English word "queer," which means "strange" or "unusual." However, the meaning has been transformed and reclaimed by the LGBTQ+ community to represent a sense of pride, self-identification, and community.

It's important to note that while "queer" can be a powerful and inclusive term, not everyone identifies with it, and some people may still experience it as a hurtful or offensive slur. It's essential to respect individuals' preferences and use the language they use to describe themselves.


[19/07, 08:13] QP: @⁨Meta AI⁩ How do feminist and queer approaches  reconfigure the object of enquiry itself by making a problem statement of  heteronormativity in research data during literature review, investigating agential capabilities of Digital communities as socio technical systems to envision alternative futures through a process of speculative engagement with historical past?


[19/07, 08:13] Meta AI: Feminist and queer approaches in research can significantly reconfigure the object of enquiry by challenging traditional notions of knowledge production and power dynamics. When examining heteronormativity in research data during a literature review, these approaches can:

1. *Question dominant narratives*: Feminist and queer perspectives can identify and problematize the assumption of heteronormativity as the default or norm, highlighting its impact on research findings and knowledge production.

2. *Center marginalized voices*: By focusing on the experiences and perspectives of marginalized communities, including LGBTQ+ individuals, feminist and queer approaches can bring attention to the ways in which heteronormativity has been used to silence or erase these voices.

3. *Reframe research questions*: These approaches can reformulate research questions to address the ways in which heteronormativity shapes the research itself, the data collection methods, and the analysis.

4. *Engage in speculative engagement*: Feminist and queer approaches can employ speculative methods, such as scenario-building or world-building, to envision alternative futures that challenge heteronormative assumptions and explore new possibilities for social organization and relationships.

5. *Analyze agential capabilities*: By examining digital communities as sociotechnical systems, researchers can investigate how these communities exercise agency and create new forms of sociality, relationships, and cultural production that may subvert or resist heteronormative norms.

6. *Historical recontextualization*: Feminist and queer approaches can reexamine historical events, cultural artifacts, or social movements through a queer lens, revealing new insights into the ways in which heteronormativity has been constructed and contested over time.

7. *Decentering the human*: These approaches can also consider the role of non-human actors, such as technology or environment, in shaping social relationships and challenging heteronormative assumptions.

By reconfiguring the object of enquiry, feminist and queer approaches can create new possibilities for knowledge production, social critique, and speculative engagement, ultimately contributing to a more nuanced understanding of the complex relationships between technology, society, and human experience.



Thursday, July 11, 2024

UDLCO: PaJR CBBLE udhc approach to a patient with backache and backache outcomes project archival toward thematic analysis

UDLCO summary: Description of how team based learning around low backache keeping the patient's requirements at the center can eventually be beneficial toward improving backache patient outcomes.

UDHC glossary:

 http://userdrivenhealthcare.blogspot.com/2023/11/glossary-of-user-driven-healthcare.html?m=1

Past outcomes project with partially completed thematic analysis:



Patient advocate's initiation to the PaJR team based patient centred learning group:


[11/07, 17:16] Genau PaJR CEO CFHE IIT: Please kindly start posting current symptoms

[11/07, 19:24] Patient Advocate 55f Backache Telangana: She is suffering from back pain and legs pain

[11/07, 19:25] Patient Advocate 55f Backache Telangana: Feels high back pain while getting from bed

[11/07, 19:26] Patient Advocate 55f Backache Telangana: Sometimes feels pain in shoulder and neck

[11/07, 19:27] Patient Advocate 55f Backache Telangana: Pains during folding of legs

[11/07, 19:27] Genau PaJR CEO CFHE IIT: Describe how she feels in the morning immediately after getting up from bed 

Please kindly describe her daily routine from getting up in the morning hour by hour

[11/07, 21:11] PaJR PHR moderator:

 Since when?

[11/07, 21:53] Patient Advocate 55f Backache Telangana: For last seven years


[12/07, 08:08] PaJR PHR moderator: 

Can you share her hourly daily routine before seven years when she was presumably living a normal life?

Let me share some examples in links below to demonstrate the structure of information, slotted into hourly slots we would need to proceed further in our evaluation 👇


Example 1 normalcy illustrated in another patient who doesn't have backache:

6.30 am : woke up and got prepared for morning Walk 

7.30 am : came home and went to bath 

8.00 am : students came of class 9 & class 7 and studied, drank cow milk with Protinex 

9.15 am : had lunch with rice, dal , mixed sabji and omlet curry 

9.30 am : did some household work 

10.00 am : went to school 

2.00 pm : returned home and slept 

3.30 pm : ate ruti , 1 spoon jaggery with milk and slept again

5.00 pm : woke up, students came and studied 

7.30 pm : went for tuition to teach drank milk tea without sugar and 2 biscuits 

8.45 pm : went for rehearsal of drama.

10.00 pm : came home and had dinner, rice , fish , dal , sabji 

10.15 pm : did some work 

11.30 pm : slept

More about this patient here:


Another backache patient's hourly activities:

8.00 AM - wakeup time

8-8.30 AM - freshup

9.00 AM - breakfast (2 idly + 2 vada + chutney)+ one cup tea



9.30 - 1 PM - client work on system

2 PM- lunch ( chicken biryani approximately 300 grams)

2.45-4.30 PM - sleeping

4.45-5.30 PM - went out on a casual walk of approximately 1.5 km

5.45 PM - 2 muffins + one cup coffee

6. PM- 9 PM - system work

9.20 PM - dinner (chicken biryani approximately 200 gm)


Note- the pain he had in the lower back on the left side area seems to have returned and is bothering in the same way like it did a week ago . Faces pain / discomfort in that area on deep breath and also when stretching body.

More about the above backache patient here:


Backache PaJR project community link to many patient advocates team based learning endeavours around their patients with backache along with meticulous case reports, aka dynamics EHRs: 

https://chat.whatsapp.com/KrzITTOUkVC9H1aT3yCMMM

More about daily hourly sharing of energy inputs and outputs here: