Monday, January 15, 2024

UDLCO: NMC driven dynamic E logged learning in healthcare education

UDLCO Summary:

Learning accountability and transparency toward generating further feedback learning continuity loops have in recent times been considerably enhanced by ICT online platforms transforming paper based log books to online learning portfolios where a lot of blended learning happens with the online learning portfolio serving as a key pivot in that process. Recently all major Indian educational policy making bodies have been making this kind of learning mandatory although it's implementation still leaves a lot of room for discord or complacency. 

More than 1000's e logged online learning portfolios are accessible as an open learning platform through medicine departmental dashboard hereπŸ‘‡
These are dynamic e logs connected to PaJR groups where they form the substrate for team based learning and assessment πŸ‘‡
Dynamic e log feedback does away with paper based signatures and even signatures for that matter. The date the student logs their experience and shares it on a social media user driven learning platform can't be changed or decrypted easily and timely assessment of the logging learner is driven by other user driven learners (including faculty)  feedback, which eventually drives learningin the entire ecosystem. 

UDLC transcripts :

1/4, 2:43 PM] Rakesh Biswas: 


NMC December 29, 2023 gazette Quoting from Chapter 5, 5.2 page 34

 "Post-graduate students of broad and Speciality degree courses shall maintain a dynamic e-log book which needs to be updated on a weekly basis about thework being carried out by them and the training programme undergone during the period of training. 
(vii) It shall be the duty of the Post-graduate guide imparting the training to assess and authenticate monthly the 
record (e-Log) books.


[1/4, 3:11 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Thus, starts the era of Medical education specific apps,beyond e-Learning


[1/4, 3:13 PM] Dr Ravi Nayar Bangalore: Sounds like Tolkien speak



[1/4, 3:34 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Yeah, I am Lord of the Things



[1/4, 4:19 PM] +91 98: That is good. This happens during training in the UK and across Europe as well. To get our degrees recognized in UK or EU these logbooks are required to provide authentication of the course and experience.



[1/4, 4:20 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: In that case there should be an open platform accessible to educators and students ,so that others can view details



[1/4, 4:25 PM] +91 981: Individual logs are checked.




[1/4, 4:26 PM] +91 981: If one does any fellowship involving surgery or intervention in any of these countries one has to maintain a logbook there as well



[1/4, 4:31 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Here's one of the e logs of one of our students who's joining NHS UK next month :




[1/4, 4:35 PM] Rakesh Biswas: All our more than 1000's e logged online learning portfolios are accessible as an open learning platform through our departmental dashboard here πŸ‘‡




[1/4, 4:35 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: I am certain, few years down the line, the expectation would be that someone has to approve the logs.



[1/4, 4:36 PM] +91 981: Yes logbooks have to be signed by your supervisor



[1/4, 4:38 PM] Rakesh Biswas: These are dynamic e logs connected to PaJR groups where they form the substrate for team based learning and assessment πŸ‘‡





[1/4, 4:40 PM] Rakesh Biswas: With dynamic e log feedback we have done away with paper based signatures and even signatures for that matter. 

Assessment is driven by feedback and that drives learning



[1/4, 4:45 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Wonder, whether an LMS would better fit , than a blogging system. While blogging is easier and comes naturally to the new generation of medicos, LMS might provide more useful features

[1/4, 4:52 PM] Rakesh Biswas: The blog is the static component of the e log while the dynamic component is the PaJR 

More about it hereπŸ‘‡




[1/4, 4:57 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Trying to understand how the PaJR concept is different from the EHR


[1/4, 4:59 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Also,interesting would be , what would be the layer ( like an LMS), a medical college would have over the EMR or HIS


[1/4, 5:00 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Like ability to extract a particular patients EMR record  which the students are studying and then there is discussion, Q and A or assignments going on in the LMS layer


[1/4, 5:01 PM] Rakesh Biswas: It's patient driven learning

Students create the record and learn during and immediately after the encounter and if admitted on repeated offline encounters blended to the online PaJR


[1/4, 5:04 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Well, this needs a lengthy discussion. A very important topic . Healthtech for Academic hospitals and other institutions


[1/4, 5:05 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Another CPS @⁨Uma Nambiar CEO, IISc Medical School⁩



[1/4, 5:09 PM] Rakesh Biswas: The PaJR is also instrumental during follow up informational continuity driven learning as in an asynchronous persistent clinical encounter :







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