(vii) It shall be the duty of the Post-graduate guide imparting the training to assess and authenticate monthly the
record (e-Log) books.
[1/4, 3:11 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Thus, starts the era of Medical education specific apps,beyond e-Learning
[1/4, 3:13 PM] Dr Ravi Nayar Bangalore: Sounds like Tolkien speak
[1/4, 3:34 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Yeah, I am Lord of the Things
[1/4, 4:19 PM] +91 98: That is good. This happens during training in the UK and across Europe as well. To get our degrees recognized in UK or EU these logbooks are required to provide authentication of the course and experience.
[1/4, 4:20 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: In that case there should be an open platform accessible to educators and students ,so that others can view details
[1/4, 4:25 PM] +91 981: Individual logs are checked.
[1/4, 4:26 PM] +91 981: If one does any fellowship involving surgery or intervention in any of these countries one has to maintain a logbook there as well
[1/4, 4:31 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Here's one of the e logs of one of our students who's joining NHS UK next month :
[1/4, 4:35 PM] Rakesh Biswas: All our more than 1000's e logged online learning portfolios are accessible as an open learning platform through our departmental dashboard here π
[1/4, 4:35 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: I am certain, few years down the line, the expectation would be that someone has to approve the logs.
[1/4, 4:36 PM] +91 981: Yes logbooks have to be signed by your supervisor
[1/4, 4:38 PM] Rakesh Biswas: These are dynamic e logs connected to PaJR groups where they form the substrate for team based learning and assessment π
[1/4, 4:40 PM] Rakesh Biswas: With dynamic e log feedback we have done away with paper based signatures and even signatures for that matter.
Assessment is driven by feedback and that drives learning
[1/4, 4:45 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Wonder, whether an LMS would better fit , than a blogging system. While blogging is easier and comes naturally to the new generation of medicos, LMS might provide more useful features
[1/4, 4:52 PM] Rakesh Biswas: The blog is the static component of the e log while the dynamic component is the PaJR
More about it hereπ
[1/4, 4:57 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Trying to understand how the PaJR concept is different from the EHR
[1/4, 4:59 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Also,interesting would be , what would be the layer ( like an LMS), a medical college would have over the EMR or HIS
[1/4, 5:00 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Like ability to extract a particular patients EMR record which the students are studying and then there is discussion, Q and A or assignments going on in the LMS layer
[1/4, 5:01 PM] Rakesh Biswas: It's patient driven learning
Students create the record and learn during and immediately after the encounter and if admitted on repeated offline encounters blended to the online PaJR
[1/4, 5:04 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Well, this needs a lengthy discussion. A very important topic . Healthtech for Academic hospitals and other institutions
[1/4, 5:05 PM] Sridhar DHIA IAMI: Another CPS @Uma Nambiar CEO, IISc Medical School
[1/4, 5:09 PM] Rakesh Biswas: The PaJR is also instrumental during follow up informational continuity driven learning as in an asynchronous persistent clinical encounter :
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