LOR SEL stance on USMLE aspirants who haven't been mentored rigorously by us: Conversational transcripts

5/16/2020, 4:48 PM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: This is one of the patient I have been following for the past 3 days sir

[5/16/2020, 9:50 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Good. Well done. Please share it in the intern log book group. 

Ask everyone of the interns to provide inputs in the form of queries to it. 

Make sure you also do the same to their log books

[5/16/2020, 10:26 PM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: Okay sir, will do. Thank you sir

[4/26/2022, 3:57 PM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: Good afternoon sir.

I am reaching out to you regarding the letter of recommendation for  my application to an elective at Yale School of Medicine. I have drafted a letter, kindly have a look at it sir. 

Thank you.

[4/26/2022, 4:06 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Here are our LOR conditions 👇

http://medicinedepartment.blogspot.com/2021/07/evidence-based-letter-of-recommendation.html?m=1

[4/26/2022, 4:12 PM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: Sir, the LOR helps differentiate candidates for the said elective. I would be grateful if you could take a look at the draft that I sent you and maybe give me a more personalized one.

[4/26/2022, 4:19 PM] Rakesh Biswas: We will need to have a summative assessment of your competencies in medicine tomorrow for which you would need to check out our current patient in ICU and then identify his problems and then share your evidence based plan toward further management comparing with what has already been done till date. 

This particular patient I'm talking about has come with hypoglycemia and we have found multiple abscesses in his liver and lung. Ask our PG Dr Pradeep or Dr Manasa in ICU to direct you to that patient

[4/26/2022, 4:21 PM] Rakesh Biswas: This summative assessment will help us to understand if you are "able to comprehend and apply patient centred health care, which is our specialty

[4/26/2022, 4:25 PM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: Sir, I belong to the 2015 batch of interns. I had come to narketpally regarding the application.

[4/26/2022, 4:29 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Yes I know. But we didn't have your summative assessment either. 

Without that how will we know if the LOR script is correct or not?

[4/26/2022, 4:53 PM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: Sir, please do consider. It would be really helpful for my application.

[4/26/2022, 4:54 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Why should it be difficult for you to prove what you have written in the LOR?

[4/26/2022, 4:55 PM] Rakesh Biswas: 👆Is this a big deal for someone who has the competencies that the LOR claims? 🤔

[4/26/2022, 9:19 PM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: I am sorry sir, I was preparing for my step exam and am in a time crunch. I cant demand it, and I apologize that I  couldn't give you the required assessment.

[9/13, 9:19 AM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: Good morning, sir. I am from 2k15 batch. I am at the last step of my USMLE journey, sir, and I would like your help with my application. I would like to request a LOR from you as I intend to apply for internal medicine residency here in the USA. I look forward to hearing from you soon, sir. Thank you so much for your time and consideration.

[9/13, 9:23 AM] Rakesh Biswas: We give LORs only to those who work in our "ongoing departmental projects" and publish with us. 

For the rest there's the official LOR from the Principal office

[9/13, 9:27 AM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: I understand, sir. Is there a possibility for me to request an IMSEL, which is an evaluation form for my performance during medical school, sir?

[9/13, 9:47 AM] Rakesh Biswas: From the principal office 

Rest is available open access in your online learning portfolio through our dashboard here👇

http://medicinedepartment.blogspot.com/2022/02/?m=1

[9/13, 10:19 AM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: IMSEL is given by the HOD, sir. I could show you a sample draft someone received from their HOD. I would really appreciate it if you would have a look at it sir.

[9/13, 10:20 AM] Rakesh Biswas: Show me an online link that it's supposed to be given by HOD

[9/13, 3:50 PM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: https://residencyexperts.com/what-is-the-sel-for-internal-medicine/

[9/13, 4:36 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Thanks for sharing this! 

Talk of collective cognition. Around the same time I shared a similar idea here http://medicinedepartment.blogspot.com/2021/07/evidence-based-letter-of-recommendation.html?m=1 with quite a few US program directors!

[9/13, 4:39 PM] Rakesh Biswas: But the link clarifies that it's not the HoD but by a mentor who observed you in the medical field

That is exactly what I meant when I said that we give the LoR only to those students who have worked closely with us and communicated their work in wider platforms. That's when we actually get to mentor our students

[9/13, 4:43 PM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: Thank you for this, sir. The effort and idea that went into this is truly inspirational.

[9/13, 4:45 PM] USMLE Aspirant 2015 MBBS: I would request you to take into consideration the medical school work that is part of the curriculum that can be used to assess my performance in providing me with the SEL.

[9/13, 4:48 PM] Indian medical school curriculum is stuck at blooms level 2!!

It means there's no real work for students in Indian medical schools!

Past LOR stance : https://userdrivenhealthcare.blogspot.com/2022/09/medicine-department-current-stance-on.html?m=1

Above webshot from : https://residencyexperts.com/what-is-the-sel-for-internal-medicine/